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Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita_Jiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:22 am

Hello everyone. I'm an older player from back in the Gold/ Diamond days (RIP Double Chi), and I've been really out of the game since about 2005. I picked up a deck just to have a look about 4 years ago, but didn't recognize a lot of the rules and saw that the standard Crane deck wasn't what I had hoped for. I'm once again coming back to have a look at the game and was hoping for some info.

I'm curious to see if Crane dueling is a legitimate deck once again? I've heard the Come One at a Time is back (once my favorite card. I loved giving baby Domotai the Celestial sword, then letting her COAAT every enemy in sight), and I've heard that some of the "iaijutsu" cards are back as well. Is a dueling deck viable anymore? I'd love to build one of it is. Please let me know anything else you think may be relevant as well. I hope there's something for me to enjoy again in L5R.

Thank you all so much and I look forward to hearing more.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita Shiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:32 am

Dueling Honor is difficult at the moment. There are a lot of high Chi Personalities and Duelists randomly floating around the other Clans, good cards that also happen meta dueling (Spirited Dispute and Relentless), and decent-to-good +2C Weapons. Also, Come One At A Time is no longer as deadly as it used to be as most Terrains now destroy any pre-existing Terrain in play (such as COAAT). There are no power duels like Iaijutsu Challenge (the closest we get is the very watered down Sanctioned Duel) or Iaijutsu Duel. The best honor deck right now is Phoenix.

Dueling Military is also hard out of Crane because of the low-Force most of our Duelists have. Lion, Spider, and Dragon all do that better.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita_Jiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:53 pm

Well that's sad news. What CAN the Crane do right now? Please don't tell me we're stuck with sneaky Daidoji stuff again. That was a sad era.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita Shiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:56 pm

Kakita_Jiro wrote:Well that's sad news. What CAN the Crane do right now? Please don't tell me we're stuck with sneaky Daidoji stuff again. That was a sad era.

"Scout" Military is our best deck at the moment. Dishonor is supposed to be an option starting with the upcoming Evil Portents if that's something you don't mind.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita_Jiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:10 pm

I prefer to leave dishonor to the Scorpion. My favorite was always Dueling honor rocket out of Kakita Dueling Academy (not a popular stronghold, but I made it work for me with favor control via Kakita Mai.) I did run a limited phase honor rocket based almost entirely off of courtiers, Gempukku, and some cleanup dueling with double chi heavy hitters (Kurohito, Korihime, Noritoshi, Hachi, Kakita). I also played, it was either a stronghold or a sensei, that gave me an extra attack phase that I could send harriers into. It wasn't great.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita Shiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:16 pm

Action-phase Courtier Honor rocket is a playable deck, if not earth-shatteringly good. It just gets decimated by all the top-tier decks.

This is the highest placing Crane Honor deck at World's this year. You can use either Untap.in (web-based game simulator) or Sun and Moon (Unity application for multiple OSs) to try it out without committing to any purchases.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Martino » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:28 pm

KDA was my favorite card ever. And I've been agitating to get dueling back as a legitimate tournament deck. It isn't right now, but I am cautiously optimistic for Onyx.

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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita Shiro » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:14 pm

Martino wrote:KDA was my favorite card ever. And I've been agitating to get dueling back as a legitimate tournament deck. It isn't right now, but I am cautiously optimistic for Onyx.

To be fair, I think most, if not all,Crane players want some sort of viable dueling deck.
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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Martino » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:22 am

Kakita Shiro wrote:
Martino wrote:KDA was my favorite card ever. And I've been agitating to get dueling back as a legitimate tournament deck. It isn't right now, but I am cautiously optimistic for Onyx.

To be fair, I think most, if not all,Crane players want some sort of viable dueling deck.


That is actually a fairly recent development. When I started playing in Gold, I found that the vast majority of Crane players I met were locked into the mindset of Robo-Crane in Jade. I played in something like 12 Koteis in Gold and Diamond and only once encountered another Crane playing KDA.

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Re: Thinking about coming back

Postby Kakita_Jiro » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:32 pm

Martino wrote:That is actually a fairly recent development. When I started playing in Gold, I found that the vast majority of Crane players I met were locked into the mindset of Robo-Crane in Jade. I played in something like 12 Koteis in Gold and Diamond and only once encountered another Crane playing KDA.


If you were playing in Florida it was probably me. :) I've been a straight up dueling deck player since I started the game, I attribute it to my being introduced to L5R via the roleplaying game, and my first character was a Kakita duelist.
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